Doesn't that mean Google will be able to view in minute detail almost every interaction the user has with the site, including user's private data passed to and from the site? Of course not for encrypted connections, but even then, isn't it a rather perfect place for a man-in-the-middle attack?
Oh yeah, I forgot, Google doesn't do evil, so it's OK.
Of course the optimization is going to be faster if you don't load the images: http://www.webpagetest.org/result/110728_YY_ee2dd5b5ad27a678cdd1563efbe07d8e/
However, I have images on my site for a reason: they're pretty.
Don't be discouraged if your "optimized" site appears slower. We're under HUGE load today and our caches aren't primed. Try back again in a day or two - it'll look much better!
@Ram : in spite of test being slower, ill be going live for my blog after a while ... where is the cache located? Is it dispersed to all countries where google has servers? or its a centralized cache?
@sajal - the caches are distributed globally. @Carlos Martins - Blogger & Sites don't use it today. I can't comment on future plans. @velocity boy, Martin DJ - it should work for both dynamic and static sites, but the gains depends on the site itself. Not all sites will show gains, so its best to run measurement tests & find out. As the blogpost says, we are working on more enhancements.
I tested about a dozen of my sites, in every instance the "optimized" version was significantly slower..
I do have to add that I have spent a lot of time optimizing these sites already, they run on dedicated servers that are optimized as well and most serve a significant percentage of their "stuff" using a CDN so the benefits of this program might not be geared at sites such as mine.
Google announces Page Speed Service which is kind of like the start up CloudFlare. The thing is, how do you know that Google isn't going to shut down their project in 1 year if they find it doesn't receive much traction (or any number of reasons)? In the past 6 months they have shut down a number of services as well as many public APIs and Google Labs.
In this case, it makes more sense to trust your services to a start up who is at least going to _try_ to stay around and at least _try_ to give you customer support. To tell you the truth, I think Google has lost a lot of consumer confidence in their services.
@Julian: Well, if that ever happens, you'll get an early notification like the other shut down services. You can then move back to CloudFlare or other CDN services you like, I guess
Very interesting service, but how do we (or more importantly my customers) refresh stored content when content changes (all my sites are content managed) especially for dynamic sites like blogs with comments updating often. Or is this service only good for static sites, or sites with infrequent content change? Thanks
Creo que no es una buena idea, esto va en contra de la neutralidad de la Red, no se si se puede confiar luego que estas web no esten mejor posicionadas, y que se les de ventajas sobre otras web. no me agrada esta idea, es mas me parece lamentable. Supongo que si no es google lo haria otro.. pero asi y todo lo considero negativo.
I think it is a good idea, this is against net neutrality, if you can not trust these websites after not better positioned, and to give them advantages over other websites. I do not like this idea, but I find it regrettable. I guess if I would do is google the other .. But even so I consider it negative.
@amityweb - Page Speed Service should work for blogs and such dynamic sites. Your users will not be served stale content. Caching mostly applies to resources such as JS, images and CSS. HTML is typically not cached, unless you specifically ask for it (through http headers).
Does the rewriting of the code also make it pretty for search engine spiders? :) speed is good.. but if it also makes code more friendly then that is a double +. Would love to try it.
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@Ram Ramani - Because the content would be distributed across Google's CDN, presumably, does this provide a valid solution against a DDoS attack? We're currently paying a certain well-known host $3.5k per month for a lot of metal, including a dedicated Preventier filter, in the off chance we get attacked again. Could you elaborate what would happen if a site using the new Page Speed service is DDoSed?
Also, I'm with @Mohamed Fasil - your signup form is throwing a Violation of Terms of Service error.
@Mohamed Fasil - the sign up page should be back up again. Sorry for the inconvenience.
@sstringer - we currently don't promise DDoS protection for individual sites, although this is turning out to be a popular feature request. We can handle spikes in your traffic, up to reasonable limits - such as due to a promotion for your site.
Does the rewriting of the code also make it pretty for search engine spiders? :) speed is good.. but if it also makes code more friendly then that is a double +. Would love to try it.
awesome :)
ReplyDeleteWant to use these API's - nice.
ReplyDeleteHow does this work for dynamic and personalised sites? Are you caching anything at all?
ReplyDeleteOr is this more a preferred solution to static sites?
Doesn't that mean Google will be able to view in minute detail almost every interaction the user has with the site, including user's private data passed to and from the site? Of course not for encrypted connections, but even then, isn't it a rather perfect place for a man-in-the-middle attack?
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, I forgot, Google doesn't do evil, so it's OK.
optimized version was slower http://www.webpagetest.org/result/110728_2Q_3e7580f57d0bf156d364b2771c3efe94/
ReplyDeletethat's better
ReplyDeleteThis is going to have a huge impact on the image vertical. How will Google ensure that we are not at loss as a result?
ReplyDeleteOf course the optimization is going to be faster if you don't load the images: http://www.webpagetest.org/result/110728_YY_ee2dd5b5ad27a678cdd1563efbe07d8e/
ReplyDeleteHowever, I have images on my site for a reason: they're pretty.
optimized version was slower for me too
ReplyDeletehttp://www.webpagetest.org/result/110728_50_bbd13ed05b3cbdccac75fba7404888cc/
Great to see you guys stepping into another market, don't squish your competition too hard though - many of them are just getting off the ground.
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to trying this!
ReplyDeletedo want!
ReplyDeleteAs unlikely as it is, what happens if Googles Server goes down, then you website doesn't load at all?
ReplyDeleteSome people don't like losing control of simple stuff like that, I myself would, but my employer wouldn't.
Very interesting service. Look forward to use it
ReplyDeleteDon't be discouraged if your "optimized" site appears slower. We're under HUGE load today and our caches aren't primed. Try back again in a day or two - it'll look much better!
ReplyDelete@Ram : in spite of test being slower, ill be going live for my blog after a while ... where is the cache located? Is it dispersed to all countries where google has servers? or its a centralized cache?
ReplyDeleteAlso, will google sites like blogger automatically use this? That would be great.
ReplyDeleteI would really like to know the technique behind this - especially with focus on the questions that "velocity boy" asked:
ReplyDelete- How does this work for dynamic and personalised sites? Are you caching anything at all?
- Or is this more a preferred solution to static sites?
Also, if Google Servers cache the content, how often are the caches refreshed, and will login etc. even work?
@sajal - the caches are distributed globally.
ReplyDelete@Carlos Martins - Blogger & Sites don't use it today. I can't comment on future plans.
@velocity boy, Martin DJ - it should work for both dynamic and static sites, but the gains depends on the site itself. Not all sites will show gains, so its best to run measurement tests & find out. As the blogpost says, we are working on more enhancements.
I tested about a dozen of my sites, in every instance the "optimized" version was significantly slower..
ReplyDeleteI do have to add that I have spent a lot of time optimizing these sites already, they run on dedicated servers that are optimized as well and most serve a significant percentage of their "stuff" using a CDN so the benefits of this program might not be geared at sites such as mine.
I'm very keen to join the beta test phase. Ram, can you put in a word for me? http://www.else.co.nz/
ReplyDeleteGoogle announces Page Speed Service which is kind of like the start up CloudFlare. The thing is, how do you know that Google isn't going to shut down their project in 1 year if they find it doesn't receive much traction (or any number of reasons)? In the past 6 months they have shut down a number of services as well as many public APIs and Google Labs.
ReplyDeleteIn this case, it makes more sense to trust your services to a start up who is at least going to _try_ to stay around and at least _try_ to give you customer support. To tell you the truth, I think Google has lost a lot of consumer confidence in their services.
@Julian: Well, if that ever happens, you'll get an early notification like the other shut down services. You can then move back to CloudFlare or other CDN services you like, I guess
ReplyDeleteCan we get a sneak peek idea of how much this will cost? I'd hate to fall in love with this thing just to later find out I can't afford it. :-\
ReplyDelete@Leigh Harrison - please put in your request in the signup web form. We will be approving sites gradually.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting service, but how do we (or more importantly my customers) refresh stored content when content changes (all my sites are content managed) especially for dynamic sites like blogs with comments updating often. Or is this service only good for static sites, or sites with infrequent content change?
ReplyDeleteThanks
Creo que no es una buena idea, esto va en contra de la neutralidad de la Red, no se si se puede confiar luego que estas web no esten mejor posicionadas, y que se les de ventajas sobre otras web. no me agrada esta idea, es mas me parece lamentable. Supongo que si no es google lo haria otro.. pero asi y todo lo considero negativo.
ReplyDeleteI think it is a good idea, this is against net neutrality, if you can not trust these websites after not better positioned, and to give them advantages over other websites. I do not like this idea, but I find it regrettable. I guess if I would do is google the other .. But even so I consider it negative.
Quite the improvement for JSM Protective's site. We've signed up.
ReplyDelete@amityweb - Page Speed Service should work for blogs and such dynamic sites. Your users will not be served stale content. Caching mostly applies to resources such as JS, images and CSS. HTML is typically not cached, unless you specifically ask for it (through http headers).
ReplyDeleteDoes the rewriting of the code also make it pretty for search engine spiders? :) speed is good.. but if it also makes code more friendly then that is a double +. Would love to try it.
ReplyDeleteYour innovation is superb.
ReplyDeletei want to try it
ReplyDeleteTested my LiveJournal. -7% to page load time, -63% to repeated view. Nice :)
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@Ram Ramani - Because the content would be distributed across Google's CDN, presumably, does this provide a valid solution against a DDoS attack? We're currently paying a certain well-known host $3.5k per month for a lot of metal, including a dedicated Preventier filter, in the off chance we get attacked again. Could you elaborate what would happen if a site using the new Page Speed service is DDoSed?
ReplyDeleteAlso, I'm with @Mohamed Fasil - your signup form is throwing a Violation of Terms of Service error.
@Mohamed Fasil - the sign up page should be back up again. Sorry for the inconvenience.
ReplyDelete@sstringer - we currently don't promise DDoS protection for individual sites, although this is turning out to be a popular feature request. We can handle spikes in your traffic, up to reasonable limits - such as due to a promotion for your site.
What do you do for JPEGs? Anything like this - www.jpegmini.com?
ReplyDeletei want to know more about it who can help?
ReplyDeleteLook at this
ReplyDeletehttp://www.webpagetest.org/result/110818_PQ_dbbcc5d6d6d5d5cea8a7d91d89dca80e/
ca. 25% slower and not faster.
Does the rewriting of the code also make it pretty for search engine spiders? :) speed is good.. but if it also makes code more friendly then that is a double +. Would love to try it.
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